THE BULLSHITE AND CUSTARD ‘THE NZ CABINET PRESS CONFERENCE’
POST CABINET PRESS CONFERENCE…6th October 2021.HANSARD TRANSCRIPT – BEEHIVE. Chris Hipkins and Dr. McElnay answering questions posed by the Press. Dr McElnay is a NZ Medical Officer, she was the Director Of Public Health for the NZ Ministry Of Health (Govt) She was appointed a ‘Companion of the Queens Service Order for services to public health in the 2023 New Year Honours List. She worked for the NZ Ministry Of Health from 2016-2022
GAP IN JAB UPTAKE ‘We need to protect ourselves, our whanau, our communities. We need as many people as possible to have their 1st jab to be partially protected. We need them to be fully vaccinated asap. Now enabling the 2nd dose sooner, so people can be fully jabbed sooner, hence increase community immunity ..said Dr.McAcElnay
Chris Hipkins said : “How tricky the virus can be to manage” and “how dangerous it can be” and “COVID19 is tracking down unjabbed people, its making them sick” Our job is to get to the unjabbed people “before COVID19 finds them”. And refereed to the NORTH vs SOUTH ISLAND: – “We are an innately competitive country, its worth noting the North and South Island are neck to neck in the race to be the most jabbed island” Adding “Another piece of our plan continually improve accessibility to EVERYONE” Call the COVID19 Healthline ‘ITS FREE’.
Hipkins said “By far, the biggest, most powerful weapon we have in our fight against COVID19 is vaccination (JAB)/ Reduces rate of transmission. They are safe and everyone over 12 yrs of age can get one” and “We’ve got plenty of vax to go around” (It’s a weapon and they do not even know what it fully contains). “.Our strategy is to vigorously pursue cases that emerge “Zero cases in the community is unlikely”, NZrs have shown they are willing to pitch in be a Team of 5 Million (he refers to whole population-Team of 5million). We need you to channel your energy into giving the FINAL PUSH (The Team of 5 Million)
“We can be the most vaccinated country in the world. We need a big collective push”. We ALL have a role to play to get vax rates up” NZrs who have had their 1st dose, your job is not yet done” Make sure you get your 2nd dose. Reach out to others who have not yet been vaxed” and “You need to help us get them comfortable with being vaxed, talk to them about the reasons you have chosen to be vaxed”. And “we want you to help make sure they get reliable, honest information about the vax. We want you to help deal with an logistical barriers that has stopped them from being vaxed”. Its is critical. :We want to pull out the stops to increase our vax rates. Its never been more urgent than now” ITS URGENT- ITS CRITICAL..(But jab never tested for transmission begore going to global market place)
We are asking EVERYONE to contribute to a BIG NATIONWIDE push for Vaccination. Referring to Oct 16th Super Saturday. All vax clinics open day and evening, just like election day, all our civic leaders and political leaders will contribute, make a big effort on that day. What we need now is DEMAND. We are releasing maps that show where the highest concentrations of unvaxed people, who are by suburb.. This will help our IWI who are pushing local communities and our local MPS would work together to mobilise their communities, whether going door to door, working the phones, waving signs, there is a role for everyone to play
We are asking media and the business community groups to play a role. Offer incentives to the unvaxed. Parents, grandparents encourage young NZrs to be vaxed. No-one should be left behind, no stone (UN AGENDA 2030 Leave No-one Behind, everyone, everywhere at every age) People need to make an informed choice about vaccination. NZs response is world leading uptake of vaccination, so I request everyone pitch in, lets get it done. EVERYONE- THE TEAM OF 55 MILLION. BUT THE CONTENTS OF THE JAB ARE A TRADE SECRET
Media asked Hipkins: How many gang members are in the current cluster? Hipkis response “I don’t’s know, he asks Dr. McAlnay whether she has a precise figure” RESPONSE: No=I I don’t have a precise number, saying “Its quite a large number of gang member in this outbreak. Hipkins Replies YES. But a second previously he said “I don’t know how many”. HIPKINS reponded “Its about contract tracing, getting tested, getting vaxed” HOWEVER THE VAX HAD NOT BEEN TESTED FOR TRANSMISSION BEFORE ENTERING THE GLOBAL MARKET
MEDIA QUESTION TO HIPKINS Is it your understanding the drug deal has been part of the transmission of COVID in this cluster? HIPKINS: I don’t have any information. I could speculate like everyone else. (SO-EVERYONE ELSE IS SPECULATING). “How many special exemptions have been given to gang members, that have come into Auckland to help facilitate the vax, or testing regime?” HIPKINS-“Me personally have not given the exemptions” and “as far as I know two” (worms his way around the question). : How important is it that the Mongrel Mob leaders get out there and talk with people, who may not be listening to the press, or government messaging?. Adding “There is a lot of criticism of the Govt, that exemptions have been given to gang members, and how many gang members have caught COVID19?
CHRIS HIPKINS RESPONSE :Where we have been able to enlist gang member to help with contact tracing and testing, we have done that. Look, I have no time for gangs, have no sympathy for them, but COVID is number one priority
MEDIA to HIPKINS: “When people ask “why are you giving gangs special treatment what do you say”? HIPKINS RESPONSE:- “Where we needed to reach into places, where we needed to reach to, then that’s exactly what we do. Look, if there was another community organisation or some other entity where we needed to get someone in in order to make sure we were reaching into the places where we needed to reach to, then that’s exactly what we would do.”
MEDIA TO HIPKINS:” Is there anyone with COVID unaccounted for at the moment?”HIPKINS: With contact tracing we are doing our absolute best to find them” And “Everyone that has been identified as a positive case is accounted for”
MEDIA: Can stadiums open under Alert Leve; 2 with more than 100 people”? HIPKINS-‘ Did not know, said he would have to check it out”
Media: Can I just clarify some of the rules, because there’s still some confusion about the phase 1, mainly because the Government put up different sets of rules for these things. Can playgrounds open? Hipkins replied “Yes”. Then was asked “Can you go to the toilet at your friends house if you are there for a bbq”? HIPKINS-“NO”, not unless its an outside one THE INSANITY CONTINUES.– “Inside- Outside whats the difference”?)
MEDIA ASKED HIPKINS: “A mother was denied passage through the Auckland border for parenting arrangement because her parenting arrangement was whangai and not sanctioned by the court. Do you think that fair?” HIPKINS: “Very difficult to answer”
MEDIA: Can you give us more details about the deceased? Eg: How old, how long they have been in hospital, did they have underlying conditions? Dr McElnay: I don’t have those details,. Media replied “Sorry, why wouldn’t you have those details? I mean it’s a pretty big piece of information that’s— Dr McElnay: I don’t have those details.” I only had details this morning.” Adding “This morning was hours ago”
MEDIA: Rapid antigen testing is still in the trial phase so they haven’t been able to use that, is that correct? And have they been able to use saliva testing? Have they been able to go door to door?
HIPKINS: Rapid Antigen tests, there is international evidence they are good at detecting acute infections. PCR Tests are the best option that pick up the virus earlier. Hipkins replied-“Rapid antigen tests are considerably less accurate when they are used in people with no signs or symptoms of infection. There is much evidence that RAT tests produce false positives and false negatives are not reliable. And then Media referred to 25 large business who were asking for RAT 370,000 RAT testing kits within the next 7 days. Hipkins responded “One of the reasons we’ve been reluctant in NZ is that they are NOT GOOD at detecting acute infection. And NOT SO GOOD at detecting the early onset of the infection. They potentially give people FALSE comfort
HIPKINS: Fairly soon RAT Tests will become part of our bigger response. BUT DIDN’T HE SAY THEY ARE NOT GOOD AT DETECTING INFECTION
MEDIA Then asked Hipkins “On encouraging every Kiwi to get vaxed, how would you start those conversations with the vax hesitant? Hipkins continued with ““How tricky the virus can be to manage” and “how dangerous it can be” and “COVID19 is tracking down unjabbed people, its making them sick” Our job is to get to the unjabbed people “before COVID19 finds them”
NORTH vs SOUTH ISLAND: Hipkins “We are an innately competitive country, its worth noting the North and South Island are neck to neck in the race to be the most jabbed island”.
Hipkins stated that the COVID19 Jab is “by far, the biggest, most powerful weapon we have in our fight against COVID19 is vaccination (JAB)/ Reduces rate of transmission. They are safe and everyone over 12 yrs of age can get one” and “We’ve got plenty of vax to go around” (It’s a weapon and they do not even know what it fully contains). He said that “our strategy is to vigorously pursue cases that emerge “Zero cases in the community is unlikely”, NZrs have shown they are willing to pitch in be a Team of 5 Million (he refers to whole population-Team of 5million), that we need you to channel your energy into giving the FINAL PUSH (The Team of 5 Million). Stating “We can be the most vaccinated country in the world. We need a big collective push”. We ALL have a role to play to get vax rates up” NZrs who have had their 1st dose, your job is not yet done” Make sure you get your 2nd dose. Reach out to others who have not yet been vaxed. We want you to help make sure they get reliable, honest information about the vax. We want you to help deal with an logistical barriers that has stopped them from being vaxed”. Its is critical. :We want to pull out the stops to increase our vax rates. Its never been more urgent than now”
NOTE: ITS URGENT- ITS CRITICAL..(But jab never tested for transmission beFore entering the global market place)
Hipkins in pushing the jabs nationwide said “We are asking EVERYONE to contribute to a BIG NATIONWIDE push for Vaccination. Referring to Oct 16th Super Saturday. All vax clinics open day and evening, just like election day, all our civic leaders and political leaders will contribute, make a big effort on that day. What we need now is DEMAND. We are releasing maps that show where the highest concentrations of unvaxed people, who are by suburb. This will help our IWI who are pushing local communities and our local MPS would work together to mobilise their communities, whether going door to door, working the phones, waving signs, there is a role for everyone to play
We are asking media and the business community groups to play a role. Offer incentives to the unvaxed. Parents, grandparents encourage young NZrs to be vaxed. No-one should be left behind, no stone unturned. NOTE: UN AGENDA 2030 Leave No-one Behind, everyone, everywhere at every age. He added ” People need to make informed choices about vaccination, that NZs response is a world leading one as to the uptake of vaccination, so I request everyone pitch in, lets get it done.
NOTE: EVERYONE- THE TEAM OF 55 MILLION. BUT THE CONTENTS OF THE JAB ARE A TRADE SECRET
Media asked Hipkins: How many gang members are in the current cluster? Hipkis response “I don’t’s know, he asks Dr. McAlnay whether she has a precise figure” RESPONSE: No=I I don’t have a precise number
MEDIA says: Its quite a large number of gang member in this outbreak. Hipkins Replies YES. But a second previously he said “I don’t know how many”
HIPKINS: “Its about contract tracing, getting tested, getting vaxed” BUT THE VAX HAD NOT BEEN TESTED FOR TRANSMISSION BEFORE ENTERING THE GLOBAL MARKET
MEDIA QUESTION TO HIPKINS Is it your understanding the drug deal has been part of the transmission of COVID in this cluster? HIPKINS: I don’t have any information. I could speculate like everyone else. (SO-EVERYONE ELSE IS SPECULATING) And “How many special exemptions have been given to gang members, that have come into Auckland to help facilitate the vax, or testing regime?” HIPKINS responded -“Me personally have not given the exemptions” and “as far as I know two” (worms his way around the question)
MEDIA asks Hipkins: How important is it that the Mongrel Mob leaders get out there and talk with people, who may not be listening to the press, or government messaging? There is a lot of criticism of the Govt, that exemptions have been given to gang members, and how many gang members have caught COVID19?. Hipkins response “Where we have been able to enlist gang member to help with contact tracing and testing, we have done that. Look, I have no time for gangs, have no sympathy for them, but COVID is number one priority”
MEDIA to HIPKINS: “When people ask “why are you giving gangs special treatment what do you say”? HIPKINS RESPONSE:- “Where we needed to reach into places, where we needed to reach to, then that’s exactly what we do. Look, if there was another community organisation or some other entity where we needed to get someone in in order to make sure we were reaching into the places where we needed to reach to, then that’s exactly what we would do.
MEDIA TO HIPKINS:” Is there anyone with COVID unaccounted for at the moment?”HIPKINS replied “With contact tracing we are doing our absolute best to find them” And “Everyone that has been identified as a positive case is accounted for”
MEDIA: Can stadiums open under Alert Leve; 2 with more than 100 people”? HIPKINS-‘ Did not know, said he would have to check it out”
Media: Can I just clarify some of the rules, because there’s still some confusion about the phase 1, mainly because the Government put up different sets of rules for these things. Can playgrounds open? Hipkins said “Yes”. Media adds “Can you go to the toilet at your friends house if you are there for a bbq”? Hipkins replied ‘NO’, not unless its an outside toilet”
MEDIA ASKED HIPKINS: “A mother was denied passage through the Auckland border for parenting arrangement because her parenting arrangement was whangai and not sanctioned by the court. Do you think that fair?” HIPKINS: “Very difficult to answer”. MEDIA: Can you give us more details about the deceased? Eg: How old, how long they have been in hospital, did they have underlying conditions? Dr McElnay: I don’t have those details,. Media again jumps in asking “Why wouldn’t you have those details? I mean it’s a pretty big piece of information”— Dr McElnay: I don’t have those details.” I only had details this morning.”. Media adds “This morning was hours ago”
MEDIA: Rapid antigen testing is still in the trial phase so they haven’t been able to use that, is that correct? And have they been able to use saliva testing? Have they been able to go door to door?
HIPKINS: Rapid Antigen tests, there is international evidence they are good at detecting acute infections. PCR Tests are the best option that pick up the virus earlier.
NOTE: Rapid antigen tests are considerably less accurate when they are used in people with no signs or symptoms of infection. There is much evidence that RAT tests produce false positives and false negatives are not reliable.
MEDIA: Referred to 25 large business who were asking for RAT 370,000 RAT testing kits within the next 7 days.
HIPKINS SAID: One of the reasons we’ve been reluctant in NZ is that they are NOT GOOD at detecting acute infection. And NOT SO GOOD at detecting the early onset of the infection. They potentially give people FALSE comfort. Hipkins went on to say “Fairly soon RAT Tests will become part of our bigger response.” BUT DIDN’T HE SAY THEY ARE NOT GOOD AT DETECTING INFECTION
MEDIA Then asked Hipkins “On encouraging every Kiwi to get vaxed, how would you start those conversations with the vax hesitant? Hipkins responded by saying “Those that have had the motivation to be vaxed, helps the unvaxed. When people ask “What does the vax do? Questions about MRNA nature of the vax. A Health practitioner is best bet. Refer to those Health Practitioners speaking online. And to the Mainstream Media. (Like Dr McAnally who was then working for the Ministry of Health and Mainstream Media having been purchased by the Govt” Dr McAnaulty adds “Seek conversations with trusted people, there is a wide range of Health Professionals, speak with them get the real facts.”
NOTE; Health Professionals most wont speak up because they will be de-registered from the Medical Council. Character assassinated by the Propaganda Machine. Those who have are no longer practicing because of that.
MEDIA: Referring to a 63 Yr old man was arrested and charged in connection with a protest at the Domain Auckland. Are you glad to see the police taking this sort of action, and would you encourage more of it? But Hipkins avoided getting into this, stated this was a matter for the police
MEDIA: Referring to Misinformation and other countries regulating algorithms. Are you going to ask Google, Facebook to reduce misinformation for the Super Saturday Vax Event? Hipkins said “Facebook and Google from what I have seen have been quite proactive in removing some of the biggest sources of information in NZ. He added “I would ask social media companies to continue to be proactive in managing misinformation, where there are people who don’t have the right facts”
NOTE “Jacinda Ardern: “We will continue to be your single source of truth… Unless you hear it from us it is not the truth.”
MEDIA – Media: Medical professionals have raised major concern that roadside drug testing is unreliable. Will you hold on pushing this through Parliament? Hipkins replied “Roadside testing does not fit into my domain. Address that question to the relevant minister. NOTE; Hipkins is the COVID19 Health & Response Minister,
MEDIA: Would you be concerned if it were unreliable then would you like seeing this being pushed through? Hipkins response was “Its outside my domain. Can’t comment on it.”
NEW ZEALAND’S ALGORITHM CHARTER: Ardern introduced first Algorithm Charter in he world. Algorithms made up of teeny weeny invisible codes. (Says TRUST US). Shared with all Govt agencies, including police. (Beehive 28/7/2020). Beehive Speech NEW ALGORITH CHARTER WORLDS FIRST.. Being used effectively across all govt agencies. Algorithms play a crucial role to make connections, identify relationships patterns across vast quantities of information. But James Shaw reports: NOT WITHOUT RISKS.. The Algorithm Charter was signed by 21 agencies, embedded in Te Ao Maori perspective and use of algorithms. Māori should be involved at the very beginning of the algorithm design process
New Zealand Police have commissioned a stocktake of algorithms used to inform an algorithm governance policy for the future, including model life-cycle management. The charter commitments are specifically referenced in this work. ALGORITH CHARTER referenced for use in Police, COVID19 Misinformation-Disinformation online and the Christchurch Call. Censorship, surveillance information, data NZ Citizens and overseas visitors whom are public speakers.
https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/new-algorithm-charter-world-first
https://data.govt.nz/assets/data-ethics/algorithm/Algorithm-Charter-Year-1-Review-FINAL.pdf
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