The accuracy of historical figures are questionable due to data quality. I personally believe that data in todays world is highly questionable due to increased use of the tiny invisible codes within Algorithms. One should always question why the male suicide rates are so significantly higher than female. (25TH March 2022 NZ Parliamentary Website- Suicide in NZ: A Snapshot of recent trends)
It’s reported by parliament that the 2019 to 2021 figures for suspected rates and deaths of suicide- Maori population estimates are from 2020 onwards are unavailable. The numbers and rates of suicide deaths among Maori and Non-Maori populations depend on the ‘standard population’ used to standardise the rates. Standardised rates calculated with a different standard population that are likely to lead to a different rate ratio. Thus caution should be observed when interpreting rates calculated. Different standard populations are not comparable. The populations used to calculate rates for Maori/Non0Maori comparisons are not the same as those used to calculate rates for Maori/Pacific/Asian and other prioritised ethnicity comparisons, (Technical Information) Refers to Govt Suicide Web Tool
The female suicide rates for Asian and Pacific ethnic groups is unreliable because this is based on small numbers, thus not included. Newshub reports 4/10/2021 that NZ’s Suicide Rate Drops for Second Consecutive Year. Judge Debroral Marshall released the figures to June 30th 2021 which showed 607 people died by suspected suicide, compared to 628 the year before. Judge Marshall said “Understanding what a change in numbers and rates from one year to the next means is difficult because these numbers can fluctuate considerably.
I question, is this to quieten, silence the voices of those that voiced serious concern about increased suicide rates during the pandemic, through the stress of significant loss of jobs, businesses, isolation, lockdowns, the sheer upheaval, the dismantling of our environment we have always taken for granted? To be faced with the suicide of a loved one is a extremely traumatic experience in itself. The loss, the anger, shock and isolation and the disempowerment experienced by everyday kiwi’s by a NZ totalitarian regime. The intense grief, the fear. On top of the loss of a loved one who has taken their own life.
Newshub 2/11/2022 reports Mike King breaks down discussing the latest suicide rates, makes a tearful plea to improve the mental health services in NZ. Mike King has been an absolute warrior, passionately fighting against NZ’s failing mental health system. Mike King saying that the system is f’d up and something needs to be urgently done. Anna Tutton released the June 30th 2022 figures which showed that 538 people died of suspected suicide down from 607 the year prior. Yes, the system is absolutely f’d up. I agree with Mike King and most NZrs would. He encouraged, urged people to speak up, saying he was fed up of people just saying “I love your posts”. Mike writes about a mum whose child has died, how many more have died, how many suicides not reported. The man’s heart is bleeding, “Just loving Mikes heart rendering posts is not enough”. NZ has the highest youth suicide rate in the OECD. As Mike says we cannot allow the bureaucrats to run our country, and if you think if National gets in things will be different, you are living in la la land.
Mike King was in tears when he said the system is fkd, and no-one is doing anything about it. Mike was doing his usual fundraising events for GumBoot Friday, a charity providing counselling for young people in NZ. In June 2021 Mike returned the NZ Order of Merit he was awarded in 2019 for services to Mental Health Awareness and Suicide Prevention as he cited lack of progress in those areas. This came after repeated criticisms of Arder and the Miniter of Health as to the lack of investment in mental health serviced, and for the rejecting GumBoot Fridays plea for funding to provide free counselling for young people
The New Zealand Government I believe is a ‘Regime’.Parliament is like a ships deck, same people, same deckchairs, but they just move the deckchairs around every now and then. Helen Clark still with her foot in the door, advisign the governmentg on policies, and now Co Chair of the International Pandemic Treaty at the World Health Assembly. (National Control-Global Control all the same to me.. its all about Control)
I believe there is a litany of blatant lies that have been published by successive govts including Arderns, would be the most extreme litany of lies on the published Suicide Stats. Suicide Stats are collected, published in two different ways. Provisional and Coroners. Coroners Data represents suspected suicides. In order for a death to be legally described as a suicide a coroner must rule that the death was self inflected. Until a case of suspected suicide is officially concluded by investigation, inquest then this is only suspected.
The Govt Te Whatu Ora – Health NZ- Suicide Webtool provides data about confirmed suicide deaths as well as suspected intentionally self-inflicted deaths in NZ. Documents the following:-That Suicide Data is reported by Te Whatu Ora (Govt) and the Chief Corroner. The Chief Coroner releases data on suspected intentionally self-inflicted deaths, also those deaths not yet established if the death was from intentional harm. Te Whatu Ora releases official suicide data comprising of suicide deaths that have been confirmed by the Chief Coroner in addition to deaths provisionally coded as suicide. Provisional could be self inflicted and may not have been. Provisional Coding practices are not factual evidence
IN NZ a death is only classified as suicide by the coroner on completion of the coroners inquiry. If an inquest takes place can take several years after the death. Consequently a provisional suicide classification maybe made before the coroner reaches a verdict whether it was suicide or not. The Ministry Of Health figures for suicide are determined by the coroner. It has been publicised that those grieving for the loss of a loved ones, due to suspicion of a loved one, family member taking of their own life -Suiciding have been unable to move on at all with their lives even years later due to the final conclusion of investigation of coroners reports in NZ.
Stuff NZ reported 31st January 2021 ‘Grieving families five year waits for coroners reports – a national scandal’. Families having to wait on a knifes edge for years as the time for coroners take to investigate sudden deaths balloon 25% per years. Families waiting 2-3-4-5years. Such as huge emotional burden delays can have financial consequences on loved ones left behind too. This is shocking these people who are grieving stuck with no means of closure. (Thus the Coroners Office nor Te Whatu Ors (Govt) can publish factual suicide numbers- they are fudged)
May 2019 the Government announced funding for 8 additional part time coroners, but in 2020 six long term coroners resigned, one time coroners still had to be replaced. A mum from Northland had been waiting for 2 yrs 7 months for a coroners reports on the suspected suicide of her 15year old daughter, she had sadly passed away in June 2018. Every day checking the mail, constantly on my mind she said “I can’t move forward”. The unbearable pain of losing your child one can only imagine unless its happened to you. To wake up, go to bed each night without your child. Being stuck in limbo, cannot go through the grieving process. Carrying this huge mountain of grief.
Chief Coroner Judge Deborah Marshall acknowledged the stress of the next to kin, saying all coroners have a backlog of cases impacted by a record number in 2018-2019 (3792) which included the 51 deaths caused by the Christchurch gunman. Plus the resignation of 6 coroners.
NOTE closure of investigations, inquiries into suspected suicides 877 days those going to inquest take up to 1,451 days from the time of death. Provisional equates to ‘Suspected’ cases of suicide fluctuate can eventually be determined as self inflicted (Suicide) or Not Self Inflicted. Yet still reported. (Evidence of factual suicide becomes Non-evidential) Not Factual Data. Suicide data of intentionally self inflicted deaths were extracted from the Ministry Of Justice case Management System on 27th July 2022. Confirmed suicide data was extracted from Te Whatu Ora Mortality Collection (MORT) 27/7/2022. 169 deaths were awaiting final outcomes for 2018
Stats based on numbers published should be interpreted with caution. Understanding trends in rates is only possible over a period of 5-10yrs or even longer in a smaller population. There is a different coding classification for death by poisoning, is coded as an accident or an intent to harm, accidental death by poisoning rather than undetermined intent. Thus can lead, and will have lead to false information on suicides being published, an overstatement of deaths by accidental poisons.
Demographic Information was unable to be sourced from the Te Whatu Mortality Collection (Govt), 65 records did not have a death registration record. The majority of these cases were from May 2021 and onwards.
World Health Org (UN) Standard World Population standards are used in NZ for difference in rates for example the ratio of suicides in Maori and Non-Maori populations, this is dependent on the standard populations which is significantly a different ratio. The Govt website Te Whatu Ora cautions that using different standard populations because they are not comparable to collaborate ratio’s for Maori and Non-Maori. Used to calculate rates for Maori/Pacific/Asian and others prioritises ethnicities this may be different when it comes to the Maori population estimates sourced from Stats NZ (Govt) Population estimates are supplied to Te Whatu Ora (Govt) as customized data sets for Stats NZ. (Using estimates where possible) Stats NZ raised their population estimates back to 2006 based on info published in 2018 rates.
Referring to Confidence-Intervals-Statistical Significance. Thus specifying uncertainty around a single value to estimate a true value .. A Legal Fiction in other words. The underlying untruths as to reported Suicide Stats in NZ. Where different estimated rates could be used by chance, thus lead to a different set of data, used to compare groups of data. Calculations are assumed, predicted.. suspected…
Investigating key models with using ‘quasi-Poisson’ distribution, this is used to determine suicide rates for the latest suicide data in NZ, where suicide rates can be highly variable, significantly different. The main problem appears to be with ‘Quasi Poisson’ is that there is no corresponding likelihood for it, hence a lot of extremely useful statistical, test, fit and measurements are unavailable thus making strong assumptions regarding the distribution of the underlying data. That caution should be observed using different standard populations because they are not comparable populations. The World Health Org., Standard Populations . Standard Population Data for use in Statistical software.
The World Health Organization (WHO) and the Global Burden of Disease study estimate that almost 800,000 people die from suicide every year. One person every 40 seconds. That’s an estimation. (a rough calculation of the value, number, quantity, or extent of something:)
Newshub reports 5th February 2022 Mates In Construction calls for more to be done to address suicide rate among construction workers. d Mates in Construction is building awareness and teaching preventative measures on work sites. The group’s research shows workers under the age of 24 and between the ages of 45-49 are particularly at risk. “We’re losing about a builder a week,” says Lee.
RNZ reported 1st Nov 2019 ‘Ringing up Tears’ Canterbury farmers doing it tought’ Farmers across NZ are all doing it tough, as Arderns Regime continues to throw farmers under their own tractors, using them as the govts whipping boy. Back I Nov 2019 Farmers were saying they are at breaking point. Suicide rates in 2019 up 17% in rural areas. Farmers battling depression. Young guys in tears they are about to lose the family farm handed down to them from one generation to another. The huge amounts of audits, compliances they have to deal with. Environment Minister David Parker said its wrong to attribute mental health increases to environmental policy. Scoop News Reports 10th Sept 2020. The reality of farmer suicides and mental illness in rural NZ is something that needs to be confronted said a Ruawai farmers. Saying he had sadly buries his friends from the rural community who did not get the support, help they needed. And Arderns Govt on the 30th November 2022 sets out on its next steps again targeting farmers. Transitional arrangement in place by 2025 referencing Farm Carbon Sequestration. The Great Carbon Capture Scam.. Huge profit making, swindling money from public purses there is no moral compass, the destruction of livilhoods
The Oil Industry, Shell, Chevron and others have no intention of zero emissions, this is an illusion.. as their profiteering came up with carbon capture. The UN IPSS enable this scam, IPCC Climate Models requiring Carbon Capture and Storage to balance carbon books at some time in the not to be seen future. The Global Elite are determining our countries future, they are also determining the stress levels put on farmers, the loss of livelihoods, of jobs and small businesses, family fragmentation. NZ Govt a regime, a two tiered Marxist socialist dictatorship that cruelly renders the most vulnerable feeling totally disempowered. Of course Suicides are on the rise significantly so. You have all been told a litany of lies with corrupted data, fear mongering debilitating the good people of NZ.
Mike King he has passionately given of himself over many years now, no wonder he feels so grieved that this Marxist Socialist NZ Regime has become so immoral and corrupt, turning its back on its own people who are suffering emotionally, mentally, physically and spiritually. Thank you Mike King for your passionate call to wake up New Zealand to our country’s seriously failing mental health system and to the many, many people who are in grief and suffering in our country.
I Conclude that I believe that the published stats on the suicide gigures in New Zealand are seriously flawed. That they are indeed much significantly higher than reported.
https://wakeupnz.org Carol Sakey
The Great Carbon Capture Scam | Red, Green, and Blue (redgreenandblue.org)
Understanding suicide in New Zealand | Ministry of Health NZ
Suicide web tool – Te Whatu Ora – Health New Zealand
Suicide in New Zealand: A snapshot of recent trends – New Zealand Parliament (www.parliament.nz)